Government Committee

Caracasus

So possible name changes:

Foreign minister - Peace-weaver
Roleplay Minister - Storyteller
Cartography Minister - Speculum mundae
Editor in Chief - Chronicler
Culture Minister - Bard
Civil Service Officer - Chamberlain

Foreign minister - Cross-Pollinator
Roleplay Minister - Lyrebird
Cartography Minister - Prime Pathfinder
Editor in Chief - Arranger of Foliage
Culture Minister - Weaver of the Woodwide Web
Civil Service Officer - Warden of the Underwood

For Culture Minister: Forest Laureate

Foreign minister - Ancient of War
Roleplay Minister - Ancient of Lore
Cartography Minister - Tree of Eternity
Editor in Chief - Ancient Protector
Culture Minister - Ancient of Wonders
Civil Service Officer - Ancient of Wind

Foreign Minister: Nikki Haley
Roleplay Minister: Donald Trump
Cartography Minister: Rick Perry
Editor In Chief: Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Culture Minister: Melania Trump
Civil Service Officer: Kelly Anne Conway

Turbeaux

Caracasus I like the first set!

Mozworld

I was going to come up with a list of tree appropriate names for the positions, but after getting 'Olive Branch' for Foreign Minister I kinda got stuck.
Not sure what would be a good roleplay tree or a particularly cultural tree etc.

Caracasus

I like olive branch or olive tree.... perhaps we could go with a grove theme?

Caracasus

The first set are good. Personally I like:
Foreign Minister - Peace-weaver
Roleplay Minister - Storyteller
Cartography Minister - Pathfinder
Editor in chief - Chronicler
Culture Minister - Bard
Civil Service officer - Warden of the underwood

But that's just me.

Second point of interest - where are we with the discussion around the deputy forest keeper?

Uan-aa-Boa

Caracasus Second point of interest - where are we with the discussion around the deputy forest keeper?

I think that had kind of petered out, but I don't recall anyone being strongly opposed to the idea. I'd floated the idea that it might be offered automatically to the person who came second in the FK election.

We should ask whether we want the deputy FK to
(a) Be waiting in the wings in case the FK resigns but not have an active remit, in which case they could have another role as well
(b) Be active in a Vice President sort of way. I notice Siwale has introduced a Chief of Staff post in The North Pacific which is basically tasked by the delegate to take forward whatever projects are needed.

Turbeaux

Uan-aa-Boa I would prefer A unless our current FK feels overwhelmed. So Mount Seymour for DFK.

Areulder

The cartography committee(which is basically just me now) would like to make a thread in Government for keeping people up to date on the maps status and for taking requests. Is that okay?

Caracasus

Areulder yeah that is fine! By the way, did you want the cartographer officer post seeing as you are the only one working on it at the moment?

Areulder

Caracasus Thank you. And yes, I suppose so. Fancy titles and all that.

Mount Seymour

The dispatch with no image (which is under my nation) is the current dispatch - it doesn't have an image because this is a new series of maps and the formatting changed a bit. The dispatch under Bruination with the old map can be removed (and indeed, I'm not sure why it's still up).

Okay. I'm not sure how much to use from the dispatch or on the forum. I guess I do need to leave some of it on the main site.

Mozworld

@Mount Seymour, since you're not involved with the map now would you be able to send @Areulder the text from the other map despatch that relates to how to get on the map. Currently we have a despatch with how to get on it with a latest map update and no image, and another despatch with said latest map update. That way we can drop one of them from the list of despatches.

Is Calenmor not involved with the map any more as they are mentioned within Mount Seymour's despatch aswell as Montmorencia's Government of Forest despatch.

Mount Seymour

Mozworld @MountSeymour, since you're not involved with the map now would you be able to send @Areulder the text from the other map despatch that relates to how to get on the map. Currently we have a despatch with how to get on it with a latest map update and no image, and another despatch with said latest map update. That way we can drop one of them from the list of despatches.

You can find the code from any dispatch by clicking on "Raw" at the bottom right. If you're asking about permission, he has my full permission to go ahead with said copying. ?

The dispatch with no image (which is under my nation) is the current dispatch - it doesn't have an image because this is a new series of maps and the formatting changed a bit. The dispatch under Bruination with the old map can be removed (and indeed, I'm not sure why it's still up).

Mozworld Is Calenmor not involved with the map any more as they are mentioned within Mount Seymour's despatch aswell as Montmorencia's Government of Forest despatch.

They're still a member of the committee, but they've been offline for a very long time (I think they've been having internet connectivity issues and/or real-life business), so they have effectively not been around.

Caracasus

Mount Seymour What powers did you have when you were in charge of the map?

Uan-aa-Boa

@Caracasus Does a your to do list include a constitutional amendment to shorten the length of the Forest Keeper's term? Also, are you happy with any other decisions being made (civil service post, deputy FK) remaining outside the constitution so that they can in principal be summarily struck out by a future Forest Keeper? Personally I think that's fine as continuity seems to be an accepted thing and candidates for Forest Keeper can be asked to make commitments before the vote. We should be clear about it though.

Caracasus

Uan-aa-Boa I am loathe to change too much too fast, and the ideas of a Deputy FK or civil service seem to fall under the category of things it's best to try out first before enshrining them in the constitution. I am happy leaving them outside the constitution as I am not sure we'll have worked out whether or not they are working as intended by the time September rolls round.

Thank you for bringing up the other point. I was about to open discussion on that myself - one of the things that cropped up was the length of the FK term, with many feeling that 6 months would be better. Thoughts?

Turbeaux

Caracasus Six months sounds perfect to me.

Mount Seymour

Caracasus No one on the Cartography Committee ever had RO power; when I was the sole person in charge of the map I had all powers because I was FK ?

Caracasus Thank you for bringing up the other point. I was about to open discussion on that myself - one of the things that cropped up was the length of the FK term, with many feeling that 6 months would be better. Thoughts?

I'm definitely in support of 6 months.

Mozworld

Yeah, 6 months seems quite sensible.

While we're on the subject of FK there are a couple of other things that we could maybe look at.

At the moment the election takes place from 16th September until early October. Z-Day takes place at the end of October and if we have a FK who is relatively new to the game, like Palos last year, they are kinda thrown in at the deep end, having to rely on other people who are more experienced to rally the troops. If we would need to create a second election date anyway for the second 6 month term we could also look at the beginning of the original one. Trouble is, bringing it forward brings us into conflict with N-Day and the inflated puppet aftermath of that, and pushing to after Z-Day takes us all the way to November. Something to consider though.
We dodged a bullet again this time with 9 candidates, but we still don't have a solution in the constitution as to what happens if there are 13 or more candidates for FK (as the NS poll can only have 12 options). Such a discussion could be combined with whether the issue of a secret ballot should (could) be resolved too.

Mount Seymour

TheCypherNine People always seem to forget about it, but I think there should be a provision like that in every NS constitution. If we have a snap election a month before the scheduled ones, it makes no sense to have two elections in a row.
At the moment the election takes place from 16th September until early October. Z-Day takes place at the end of October and if we have a FK who is relatively new to the game, like Palos last year, they are kinda thrown in at the deep end, having to rely on other people who are more experienced to rally the troops. If we would need to create a second election date anyway for the second 6 month term we could also look at the beginning of the original one. Trouble is, bringing it forward brings us into conflict with N-Day and the inflated puppet aftermath of that, and pushing to after Z-Day takes us all the way to November. Something to consider though.

Mozworld At the moment the election takes place from 16th September until early October. Z-Day takes place at the end of October and if we have a FK who is relatively new to the game, like Palos last year, they are kinda thrown in at the deep end, having to rely on other people who are more experienced to rally the troops. If we would need to create a second election date anyway for the second 6 month term we could also look at the beginning of the original one. Trouble is, bringing it forward brings us into conflict with N-Day and the inflated puppet aftermath of that, and pushing to after Z-Day takes us all the way to November. Something to consider though.

Now that you mention it... without changing any dates, a second 6-month election would take place from March through to early April-- right over the April Fools event. Even if we could stand the Z-Day timing, it is definitely not a good idea to have elections going on over the April Fools Day event.

TheCypherNine

Honestly, with how long the last election took maybe there should be something in the constitution about short terms and having a vote to nullify the subsequent election.

Uan-aa-Boa

TheCypherNine Article 5.3 in our constitution already addresses that, albeit at the risk of creating a gargantuan 15 month term of office.

"If a new Forest Keeper is elected then the term is until the next fixed election date as per Clause 4.1. If the next fixed election date is less than 3 months after the recall election date then the term will be extended by 12 months."

Reading the constitution now it's strange to think that it doesn't appear to anticipate resignation as a likely cause of an election.

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